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2004-02-29 06:52:37 UTC
In his various interviews and publications, deGrand-Pre has called 9/11 "an
administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be
stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key
military personnel are in favor of such a step.
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'No hijackers for 9/11'
Repentant arms dealer reveals disgruntled U.S. military on the verge of
revolt
By John Kaminski
***@comcast.net
Back in May 2003, a journalist in Portugal reported on a sensational,
marathon meeting of a group of U.S. pilots that issued a report concluding
that the story told by the U.S. government about what happened on Sept. 11,
2001 was improbable and unlikely.
Except for several notices on the Internet, that story was basically never
reported in the U.S., and largely debunked when the reporter flubbed the
name of the organizer, creating disbelief in the minds of many readers.
The record was corrected in stunning fashion Feb. 25 on Alex Jones' Prison
Planet radio program when former Pentagon arms salesman Donn de Grand-Pre,
author of three books that allege 9/11 was an inside job, set the record
straight, because he was the man who organized that conference. That 72-hour
non-stop symposium by a group of military and civilian pilots concluded the
flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the 9/11 tragedy
had no control over their aircraft.
de Grand Pre, a retired Army colonel, is the author of "A Window on
America," "Confessions of an Arms Peddler" and his latest, "Barbarians
Inside the Gates." His thesis in the third book "is that the wars we have
engaged in for whatever reasons since the end of World War II have not only
been unconstitutionally waged, but have caused a net loss in political
power. Each war was waged to divert our attention away from the true enemy
within, and toward a contrived enemy outside our borders."
de Grand-Pre explained that his third book actually has three parts: "OK, I'
ve got three books out under the title, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." Book
1 was "The Serpent's Sting," Book 2 is "The Viper's Venom," Book 3, which
just came out is "The Rattler's Revenge."
"And I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is
a very important paragraph there. It says,
"The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide
financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war,
perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time,
martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."
de Grand-Pre was the top U.S. arms dealer to the Middle East under the Ford
and Carter administrations. What he saw caused him to leave government
service and begin investigating the forces he saw warping our nation's
future.
In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre made several stunning assertions,
among them:
. There were no hijackers on the 9/11 killer jets. And he said the chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Richard Myers) agrees with him.
In response to a caller to Alex Jones' radio show, de Grand-Pre noted: "...
the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed, there
were no hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that
aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after
take-off. And you can take it from there. I've got it covered in books 2 and
3, what actually happened."
"These planes were being piloted by remote control, probably an AWACs
aircraft taking over that airplane or airplanes or drones, unmanned drones.
And flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could withstand. So, in
short, and if you read books 2 and 3, you will discover how and why this
came about."
. The 9/11 planes that took off full of passengers are now at the bottom of
the Atlantic Ocean. "And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably
speculating," said de Grand-Pre in response to another caller. "Those
aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was
all she wrote."
. Talk of a military coup - to reverse what he calls the administrative coup
d'etat that happened on 9/11 - are rife within the corridors of the
Pentagon.
In his various interviews and publications, deGrand-Pre has called 9/11 "an
administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be
stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key
military personnel are in favor of such a step. But the possibility is
complicated, he says, by the large number of key military players who have
gone over to the Council on Foreign Relations team. Some of these players,
including three- and four-star generals, however, may side with the military
while pretending to be on the side of the neocons. de Grand-Pre insists he
is in personal contact with members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The truly patriotic members of the military have had to sit there and take
all these wild schemes by corporate-controlled politicians. de Grand-Pre's
prediction? "I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't
going to take it any longer."
In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre also asserted:
. It is common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel fired nuclear weapons
at Iraq during the first Gulf War.
. A commercial aircraft did not hit the Pentagon. Most likely it was a
cruise missile or a Global Hawk.
. Flight 93, the jetliner that supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania after
courageous passengers struggled with armed hijackers, was shot down by the
North Dakota Air Guard. "I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to
take down 93," de Grand-Pre insisted, adding that the order to shoot down
the plane came from the Adjutant General of North Dakota.
. Most likely it was U.S. forces that tried to kill Deputy Defense Secretary
Paul Wolfowitz when he visited Iraq recently.
. Military tribunals will try current U.S. public officials when the
military decides to take over, de Grand-Pre predicts. "And
Cheney, I reiterate, is toast." de Grand-Pre named Cheney as the one man who
knows the most about 9/11.
In earlier interviews, de Grand-Pre has recounted that the Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs, Gen. Richard Myers, had 500 copies of the 24-page report made
and sent out, including, to the White House.
Assessing Myers' reaction, de Grand Pre said, "I'm quite sure that he
believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the
difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as
such.
"There's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the
civilian hierarchy - and never the twain shall meet."
Jones triggered a response from de Grand Pre when he mentioned a 2002
article in the Washington Times that said morale at the Pentagon had never
been lower.
De Grand-Pre responded: "I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a
friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low but he said some
of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the
government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, they would
probably be blood in the streets by now."
When other news outlets began checking on this story angle, Jones noted that
Pentagon officials were apoplectic. "... they panicked and flew the officers
on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It even talked about
a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them
become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?"
de Grand-Pre's answer was chilling, and revealed the possibility of a
military coup d'etat has been simmering in the corridors of the Pentagon for
some time.
"It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry
that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military
coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the 78 days of
bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at
that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that,
a coup was a possibility.
"In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it
was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat."
Jones' translation of that was "a counter-revolutionary junta."
de Grand-Pre concurred, and added: "And as we delved into that, we found
that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had
been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th."
In a previous interview that appeared on Michael Rivero's What Really
Happened website, de Grand-Pre had already outlined his conclusions about
9-11.
"The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and lives was
intentionally meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic
reaction on the part of the US citizens, which is paving the way for
"combined UN activity" (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets
in both the Middle East/ South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to
be ultimate destruction of all national sovereignty
and establishment of a global government.
"The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable
world-wide financial collapse, which can only be prevented
(temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to become known as WW 111. To bring it
off (one more time), martial law will probably be
imposed in the United States.
de Grand-Pre had also sounded the same themes on Jackie Patru's Radio Sweet
Liberty Webcast.
"The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military
operation against the United States, requiring the utmost
professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was
flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be
used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles
to their pre-selected targets.
As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world
financial center and the citadel of world strategic military
planning), the attack, from a psychological impact on the American public,
equalled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor
7 Dec 1941.
But the overriding question of that original group of pilots was: If we are
at war, who is the enemy?
The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has
infiltrated into the highest policy-making positions at the
federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but
of the troop buildup and deployment of our military forces,
including active, reserve and National Guard units.
Read the complete interview of Donn de Grand-Pre with Alex Jones at
http://www.warfolly.com/blockbustergrandpre.htm as it has not yet been
posted on Jones' website, although there is a transcript posted there of his
recent interview with former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow, who
sounded many of the themes de Grand-Pre discussed. See
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
de Grand-Pre's books are not yet available on the web, but more information
can be obtained from de Grand-Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996.
John Kaminski is the author of "America's Autopsy Report," a collection of
his Internet essays published by Dandelion Books and featured on hundreds of
websites around the world. For more information on how to get this book or
to financially support his work, go to http://www.johnkaminski.com/. Or, to
read some more of his recent essays for free, go to
http://www.rudemacedon.ca/kaminski/kam-index.html
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A single atom of God's love in one's heart is worth more than a
hundred thousand paradises.
(Islam, Bayazid al-Bistami)
Bhakti, love of God, is the essence of all spiritual discipline.
Through love one acquires renunciation and discrimination naturally.
(Ramakrishna, `The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna')
Seek to do brave and lovely things that are left
undone by the majority of people. Give gifts of love and
peace to those whom others pass by.
(Paramahansa Yogananda, Spiritual Diary)
Taking what may befall, by grief unmoved,
Unmoved by joy, unenvyingly; the same
In good and evil fortunes; nowise bound
By bond of deeds. Nay, but of such a one,
Whose crave is gone, whose soul is liberate,
Whoso heart is set on truth--of such a one,
What work he does is work of sacrifice,
Which passes purely into ash and smoke
Consumed upon the altar.
(Hindu, `The Soul Celestial')
And if you are patient -- certainly that (huwa) is better (khayr) for
those who are capable of being patient. (Koran 16:126)
Commentary: In this verse, Allah consoles his patient servants in
their trials by announcing that He Himself is the substitute and the
replacement of that which they have lost and which was pleasing to
their natural dispositions. In effect, being patient consists in
constraining the soul to accept that which is repugnant to it. The
soul experiences an aversion for everything which is not in accord
with its predisposition in the present instant, even if it knows that
it will be beneficial for it later on...
(Islam, 'Abd al-Kader)
These charitable acts of mercy done for the sake of Christ are a
service of the highest order, for Christian love surpasses all.
(The Way of a Pilgrim)
Rendering help to another is the function of all human beings.
(Jainism, Tattvarthasutra)
This sums up our entire call and duty: to adore God and to love Him
without worrying about the rest.
(Bro. Lawrence,'The Practice of the Presence of God')
administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be
stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key
military personnel are in favor of such a step.
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'No hijackers for 9/11'
Repentant arms dealer reveals disgruntled U.S. military on the verge of
revolt
By John Kaminski
***@comcast.net
Back in May 2003, a journalist in Portugal reported on a sensational,
marathon meeting of a group of U.S. pilots that issued a report concluding
that the story told by the U.S. government about what happened on Sept. 11,
2001 was improbable and unlikely.
Except for several notices on the Internet, that story was basically never
reported in the U.S., and largely debunked when the reporter flubbed the
name of the organizer, creating disbelief in the minds of many readers.
The record was corrected in stunning fashion Feb. 25 on Alex Jones' Prison
Planet radio program when former Pentagon arms salesman Donn de Grand-Pre,
author of three books that allege 9/11 was an inside job, set the record
straight, because he was the man who organized that conference. That 72-hour
non-stop symposium by a group of military and civilian pilots concluded the
flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the 9/11 tragedy
had no control over their aircraft.
de Grand Pre, a retired Army colonel, is the author of "A Window on
America," "Confessions of an Arms Peddler" and his latest, "Barbarians
Inside the Gates." His thesis in the third book "is that the wars we have
engaged in for whatever reasons since the end of World War II have not only
been unconstitutionally waged, but have caused a net loss in political
power. Each war was waged to divert our attention away from the true enemy
within, and toward a contrived enemy outside our borders."
de Grand-Pre explained that his third book actually has three parts: "OK, I'
ve got three books out under the title, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." Book
1 was "The Serpent's Sting," Book 2 is "The Viper's Venom," Book 3, which
just came out is "The Rattler's Revenge."
"And I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is
a very important paragraph there. It says,
"The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide
financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war,
perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time,
martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."
de Grand-Pre was the top U.S. arms dealer to the Middle East under the Ford
and Carter administrations. What he saw caused him to leave government
service and begin investigating the forces he saw warping our nation's
future.
In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre made several stunning assertions,
among them:
. There were no hijackers on the 9/11 killer jets. And he said the chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Richard Myers) agrees with him.
In response to a caller to Alex Jones' radio show, de Grand-Pre noted: "...
the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed, there
were no hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that
aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after
take-off. And you can take it from there. I've got it covered in books 2 and
3, what actually happened."
"These planes were being piloted by remote control, probably an AWACs
aircraft taking over that airplane or airplanes or drones, unmanned drones.
And flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could withstand. So, in
short, and if you read books 2 and 3, you will discover how and why this
came about."
. The 9/11 planes that took off full of passengers are now at the bottom of
the Atlantic Ocean. "And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably
speculating," said de Grand-Pre in response to another caller. "Those
aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was
all she wrote."
. Talk of a military coup - to reverse what he calls the administrative coup
d'etat that happened on 9/11 - are rife within the corridors of the
Pentagon.
In his various interviews and publications, deGrand-Pre has called 9/11 "an
administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be
stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key
military personnel are in favor of such a step. But the possibility is
complicated, he says, by the large number of key military players who have
gone over to the Council on Foreign Relations team. Some of these players,
including three- and four-star generals, however, may side with the military
while pretending to be on the side of the neocons. de Grand-Pre insists he
is in personal contact with members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The truly patriotic members of the military have had to sit there and take
all these wild schemes by corporate-controlled politicians. de Grand-Pre's
prediction? "I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't
going to take it any longer."
In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre also asserted:
. It is common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel fired nuclear weapons
at Iraq during the first Gulf War.
. A commercial aircraft did not hit the Pentagon. Most likely it was a
cruise missile or a Global Hawk.
. Flight 93, the jetliner that supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania after
courageous passengers struggled with armed hijackers, was shot down by the
North Dakota Air Guard. "I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to
take down 93," de Grand-Pre insisted, adding that the order to shoot down
the plane came from the Adjutant General of North Dakota.
. Most likely it was U.S. forces that tried to kill Deputy Defense Secretary
Paul Wolfowitz when he visited Iraq recently.
. Military tribunals will try current U.S. public officials when the
military decides to take over, de Grand-Pre predicts. "And
Cheney, I reiterate, is toast." de Grand-Pre named Cheney as the one man who
knows the most about 9/11.
In earlier interviews, de Grand-Pre has recounted that the Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs, Gen. Richard Myers, had 500 copies of the 24-page report made
and sent out, including, to the White House.
Assessing Myers' reaction, de Grand Pre said, "I'm quite sure that he
believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the
difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as
such.
"There's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the
civilian hierarchy - and never the twain shall meet."
Jones triggered a response from de Grand Pre when he mentioned a 2002
article in the Washington Times that said morale at the Pentagon had never
been lower.
De Grand-Pre responded: "I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a
friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low but he said some
of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the
government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, they would
probably be blood in the streets by now."
When other news outlets began checking on this story angle, Jones noted that
Pentagon officials were apoplectic. "... they panicked and flew the officers
on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It even talked about
a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them
become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?"
de Grand-Pre's answer was chilling, and revealed the possibility of a
military coup d'etat has been simmering in the corridors of the Pentagon for
some time.
"It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry
that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military
coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the 78 days of
bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at
that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that,
a coup was a possibility.
"In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it
was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat."
Jones' translation of that was "a counter-revolutionary junta."
de Grand-Pre concurred, and added: "And as we delved into that, we found
that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had
been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th."
In a previous interview that appeared on Michael Rivero's What Really
Happened website, de Grand-Pre had already outlined his conclusions about
9-11.
"The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and lives was
intentionally meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic
reaction on the part of the US citizens, which is paving the way for
"combined UN activity" (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets
in both the Middle East/ South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to
be ultimate destruction of all national sovereignty
and establishment of a global government.
"The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable
world-wide financial collapse, which can only be prevented
(temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to become known as WW 111. To bring it
off (one more time), martial law will probably be
imposed in the United States.
de Grand-Pre had also sounded the same themes on Jackie Patru's Radio Sweet
Liberty Webcast.
"The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military
operation against the United States, requiring the utmost
professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was
flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be
used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles
to their pre-selected targets.
As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world
financial center and the citadel of world strategic military
planning), the attack, from a psychological impact on the American public,
equalled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor
7 Dec 1941.
But the overriding question of that original group of pilots was: If we are
at war, who is the enemy?
The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has
infiltrated into the highest policy-making positions at the
federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but
of the troop buildup and deployment of our military forces,
including active, reserve and National Guard units.
Read the complete interview of Donn de Grand-Pre with Alex Jones at
http://www.warfolly.com/blockbustergrandpre.htm as it has not yet been
posted on Jones' website, although there is a transcript posted there of his
recent interview with former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow, who
sounded many of the themes de Grand-Pre discussed. See
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
de Grand-Pre's books are not yet available on the web, but more information
can be obtained from de Grand-Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996.
John Kaminski is the author of "America's Autopsy Report," a collection of
his Internet essays published by Dandelion Books and featured on hundreds of
websites around the world. For more information on how to get this book or
to financially support his work, go to http://www.johnkaminski.com/. Or, to
read some more of his recent essays for free, go to
http://www.rudemacedon.ca/kaminski/kam-index.html
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A single atom of God's love in one's heart is worth more than a
hundred thousand paradises.
(Islam, Bayazid al-Bistami)
Bhakti, love of God, is the essence of all spiritual discipline.
Through love one acquires renunciation and discrimination naturally.
(Ramakrishna, `The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna')
Seek to do brave and lovely things that are left
undone by the majority of people. Give gifts of love and
peace to those whom others pass by.
(Paramahansa Yogananda, Spiritual Diary)
Taking what may befall, by grief unmoved,
Unmoved by joy, unenvyingly; the same
In good and evil fortunes; nowise bound
By bond of deeds. Nay, but of such a one,
Whose crave is gone, whose soul is liberate,
Whoso heart is set on truth--of such a one,
What work he does is work of sacrifice,
Which passes purely into ash and smoke
Consumed upon the altar.
(Hindu, `The Soul Celestial')
And if you are patient -- certainly that (huwa) is better (khayr) for
those who are capable of being patient. (Koran 16:126)
Commentary: In this verse, Allah consoles his patient servants in
their trials by announcing that He Himself is the substitute and the
replacement of that which they have lost and which was pleasing to
their natural dispositions. In effect, being patient consists in
constraining the soul to accept that which is repugnant to it. The
soul experiences an aversion for everything which is not in accord
with its predisposition in the present instant, even if it knows that
it will be beneficial for it later on...
(Islam, 'Abd al-Kader)
These charitable acts of mercy done for the sake of Christ are a
service of the highest order, for Christian love surpasses all.
(The Way of a Pilgrim)
Rendering help to another is the function of all human beings.
(Jainism, Tattvarthasutra)
This sums up our entire call and duty: to adore God and to love Him
without worrying about the rest.
(Bro. Lawrence,'The Practice of the Presence of God')